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where is biden going to go? where is he going to go for the first crunch, the first sword in the ribs to paul ryan? >> i think the ryan plan. i think that's what he'll go for. on the one hand mitt romney kind of endorsed the ryan plan but he's walked away if it. i think he's going in on that, and he'll go in on the inconsistencies on where ryan and romney stand on the issues. he will force ryan to sort of defend his candidate and stand up for him, and i think he's also going after foreign policy. joe biden used to be the chairman of the senate foreign relations committee. >> even though he's one of the worst in history. >> paul ryan has no foreign policy experience at all. >> i'm waiting for joe biden appear par thid division of iraq. it's not true. ryan has made had trips abroad including the middle east. >> they did fund-raiser abroad, too. >> i didn't know that. >> they did in london. >> i think joe biden will be very formidable. i think the challenge for paul ryan in the debate is he has to come across in co
where is biden going to go? where is he going to go for the first crunch, the first sword in the ribs to paul ryan? >> i think the ryan plan. i think that's what he'll go for. on the one hand mitt romney kind of endorsed the ryan plan but he's walked away if it. i think he's going in on that, and he'll go in on the inconsistencies on where ryan and romney stand on the issues. he will force ryan to sort of defend his candidate and stand up for him, and i think he's also going after foreign...
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but biden is out preparing. i remember the debates in 2008s primary and presidential and after that, the vice presidential debate, joe biden does pretty well, right? >>guest: a lot of conservatives have been licking their chops since paul ryan announced as the running mate and could not wait, had the day circles saying it will be a bloodbath. i think paul ryan is a very able debater. he has great command of the facts particularly on economic issues. i expect a strong debate performance from him. the idea that it will be a totally lopsided bloodbath like we saw in denver, by the way, that could overstate it a little bit because at least, joe biden is going to come out more energized and engaged than the president was in denver. just the body language that the play some what to biden's advantage, even if he is sort of off the beaten trail as he so often is. >>eric: lets me push back, after the debate on wednesday night, where mitt romney seemed to -- can we pull up that poll? 72 percent of the people think that mi
but biden is out preparing. i remember the debates in 2008s primary and presidential and after that, the vice presidential debate, joe biden does pretty well, right? >>guest: a lot of conservatives have been licking their chops since paul ryan announced as the running mate and could not wait, had the day circles saying it will be a bloodbath. i think paul ryan is a very able debater. he has great command of the facts particularly on economic issues. i expect a strong debate performance...
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joe biden's very experienced at this. and i think that's right. because of the lack of momentum they have, because of the president's terrible performance, because mitt romney did such a good job of giving the country a choice, i don't think they have any choice but to have joe biden come right at me. >> hilary? >> i think there is pressure on joe biden to deliver a big performance. but i actually think there's more pressure on paul ryan because there were so many times in the debate where mitt romney kind of got -- changed the facts from the policies he's said. whether it was how he's going to make his tax cut revenue-neutral. whether he's going -- whether the president's medicare proposal is actually a cut in medicare. paul ryan was the chair of the house budget committee. it would be an affront to him not to have accurate, factual details on these issues the way that romney got away with not having. >> paul ryan knows numbers, statistics, stuff like that. >> he does. it's going to be interesting. there's a generational divide. you have the two
joe biden's very experienced at this. and i think that's right. because of the lack of momentum they have, because of the president's terrible performance, because mitt romney did such a good job of giving the country a choice, i don't think they have any choice but to have joe biden come right at me. >> hilary? >> i think there is pressure on joe biden to deliver a big performance. but i actually think there's more pressure on paul ryan because there were so many times in the...
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that's biden versus ryan here. a week from tomorrow, obama versus romney. and then those two again, two weeks from today, that's the final debate before the election. so mitt romney to the, he gave this 20-minute speech on foreign policy. not exactly one of romney's stronger suits thus far. take a look at yet another poll here. the question being better on foreign policy shows him trailing the president by seven points on that one specifically. wolf blitzer, let's talk to you about all of this. joining me live from washington here. and we'll listen in a moment to that speech from mitt romney at vmi. let me ask you this, why a foreign policy speech this late in the election campaign? do you think he sees some sort of opening here? >> yes, i think that the killing of the american ambassador and three other americans in benghazi, libya, the consulate there, and the confusion surrounding the administration's explanation for what happened, the condemnation by some has given him a clear opening. take a look at what is happening throughout north africa and the mid
that's biden versus ryan here. a week from tomorrow, obama versus romney. and then those two again, two weeks from today, that's the final debate before the election. so mitt romney to the, he gave this 20-minute speech on foreign policy. not exactly one of romney's stronger suits thus far. take a look at yet another poll here. the question being better on foreign policy shows him trailing the president by seven points on that one specifically. wolf blitzer, let's talk to you about all of this....
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biden will be counseled on how to avoid mr. obama's mistakes and even correct them with a more aggressive prosecution of the republican ticket. it's a lot of pressure that could backfire. >> it's interesting going forward into this week, i think it puts pressure on joe biden maybe exactly what the obama team didn't want, which is biden to feel the pressure of having to do well, which maybe is not a good place for biden to be. >> let me bring in white house reporter for "the new york times" peter baker. peter, thank you so much for joining us. >> thanks for having me. >> what's your anticipation here? i think it's obvious what happened with the president debate puts a lot of pressure on joe biden to perform exceptionally but it puts pressure for different reasons on congressman ryan. >> absolutely. look, there's a momentum at this point for governor romney coming out of last week's debate. it stole the opportunity for the obama campaign to kind of cement what had been building into a modest lead. so, you know, people don't tend
biden will be counseled on how to avoid mr. obama's mistakes and even correct them with a more aggressive prosecution of the republican ticket. it's a lot of pressure that could backfire. >> it's interesting going forward into this week, i think it puts pressure on joe biden maybe exactly what the obama team didn't want, which is biden to feel the pressure of having to do well, which maybe is not a good place for biden to be. >> let me bring in white house reporter for "the new...
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. >> we saw a gentler joe biden. it may be more aggressive than we saw this time than president obama last week. maybe he'll bring up the 47% and bain capital. stay tuned, suzanne. >> tell us a little bit about that debate that happened not with the real guys, but fox news's bill o'reilly and comedy central's john stewart facing off over the weekend. >> yeah. i think this was a little more entertaining than the one we saw last wednesday. these guys dent have the burden of running for president, but enough of me. let's take a listen. >> mike is here in the audience sxfshgs he asked this question. if you could see any american elected president, who would you choose and why? >> i would say clint eastwood have to be my guy. >> well, why don't we ask him. so, um -- what? tell them to do what? >> that was one of the lighter moments. you know, there was some serious parts to this debate. both gentlemen talked policy, and i think, though, the american viewers were the winners in that debate, suzanne. >> absolutely. thank yo
. >> we saw a gentler joe biden. it may be more aggressive than we saw this time than president obama last week. maybe he'll bring up the 47% and bain capital. stay tuned, suzanne. >> tell us a little bit about that debate that happened not with the real guys, but fox news's bill o'reilly and comedy central's john stewart facing off over the weekend. >> yeah. i think this was a little more entertaining than the one we saw last wednesday. these guys dent have the burden of...
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that's the challenge for biden. long before anyone heard of paul ryan we were afraid of paul ryan because we were afraid of what he wants to do to uh you, health care and a heartless approach to balancing the budget. >> when you talk about economic pain and the squeezing of seniors or the fraying of the fabric of the american social compact joe biden can speak with a romance, eloquence and an incredibly compelling narrative. >> but he's always the wild card. >> i expect 20 e-mails from the romney campaign proclaiming everything he said to be a gaffe. >> coming up, the growing chorus of doubt mon goring about the job reports points to a society where facts are debatable. how have conspiracy theorists eroded trust in government? mike rowe here at a ford tell me fiona, who's having a big tire event? your ford dealer. who has 11 major brands to choose from? your ford dealer. who's offering a rebate? your ford dealer. who has the low price tire guarantee... affording peace of mind to anyone who might be in the market for
that's the challenge for biden. long before anyone heard of paul ryan we were afraid of paul ryan because we were afraid of what he wants to do to uh you, health care and a heartless approach to balancing the budget. >> when you talk about economic pain and the squeezing of seniors or the fraying of the fabric of the american social compact joe biden can speak with a romance, eloquence and an incredibly compelling narrative. >> but he's always the wild card. >> i expect 20...
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vice-president biden is practicing for his debate, which is thursday night in kentucky. you can watch a number of different cameras and events surrounding the debate. you can also follow tweets that are being tweeted about the vice-presidential debate. you can see our debate preview program beginning at 7:00 p.m. the debate begins at 9:00 p.m. and then falling we will get your reaction. erick is an antioch, california. what did you think of the speech? caller: not that much. during the debate i was really impressed with the governor, but at the convention there was not one word about any of this and now he is talking like it is the biggest issue. it sounds like leading from behind, which is what he criticized before. it seems like if mitt romney twins, it sounds like we're going to funding the military- industrial complex and not much else. that is all i have to say. host: roger from virginia on democrats line. caller: thank you for taking my call. that is grundy, virginia. [indiscernbile] host: do you think it was a good idea to sign those three trade deals? what the go
vice-president biden is practicing for his debate, which is thursday night in kentucky. you can watch a number of different cameras and events surrounding the debate. you can also follow tweets that are being tweeted about the vice-presidential debate. you can see our debate preview program beginning at 7:00 p.m. the debate begins at 9:00 p.m. and then falling we will get your reaction. erick is an antioch, california. what did you think of the speech? caller: not that much. during the debate i...
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both paul ryan and joe biden were personally popular. when we asked people who was the more of an asset to the campaign it was very clear that paul ryan was seen as more of an asset to the romney campaign and joe biden was to the obama campaign. i think the people are watching this vice presidental debate in part to see how well the sort of second in command stand up against each other. but i also think that people kind of watch these debates a little bit like a nascar sport, they want to see who is going to go into the wall, and i think, you know, avoiding gaffes is going to be very, very important for the candidates. jenna: it is like a sporting event in many ways. kathy, it's really nice to have you back with us. we look forward to checking back in with you before election day. thank you. >> thanks a lot. jon: at the last nascar race it seems like everybody went into the wall. jenna: it was a bad one. jon: new fears of another super power spying on the united states. a block-buster report warning about espionage about two giant overse
both paul ryan and joe biden were personally popular. when we asked people who was the more of an asset to the campaign it was very clear that paul ryan was seen as more of an asset to the romney campaign and joe biden was to the obama campaign. i think the people are watching this vice presidental debate in part to see how well the sort of second in command stand up against each other. but i also think that people kind of watch these debates a little bit like a nascar sport, they want to see...
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political observers say -- >> i am sure that vice president biden got a phone call from the white house and said, you know, look, we -- you know, we didn't go after governor romney as much and so you have gotta turn up the heat. >> i think both men will be very prepared. >> analysts say there's pressure on ryan to show that he's potential presidential material in his first national debate. >>> early voting begins in california today. if you want to avoid early, head to our county office. most offices will be closed today because of columbus day. ballots will be mailed tomorrow from the post office. >>> hugo chavez has been re- elected after his closest race yet. he won re-election with 54% of the vote. his dhaller -- his challenger took 45% of the vote. chavez is the longest-serving president in latin-america. >>> the islamry military says that's wear a drone that was unmanned -- the israeli military says a drone that was unmanned was discovered. >>> julie anjulian -- julian assange supporters have until november 6th to pay 150,000 because assange violated his parole. >>> convicted kill
political observers say -- >> i am sure that vice president biden got a phone call from the white house and said, you know, look, we -- you know, we didn't go after governor romney as much and so you have gotta turn up the heat. >> i think both men will be very prepared. >> analysts say there's pressure on ryan to show that he's potential presidential material in his first national debate. >>> early voting begins in california today. if you want to avoid early, head...
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. >> is there anything more exciting than joe biden thinking it's up to him to get the lead back? >> relief may be just days away for california thrivers suffering through the highest gasoline prices in the nation. >> they're keeping tired old grannies like me at home. >> there are more than 91 cases of fungal meningitis. the outbreak spanning nine states has killed at least seven people. >>> a wild brawl between two separate wedding parties ends with one man dead and four people under arrest. >> did they just hit the bride? >>> liftoff. a new era in space flight. the first commercial flight into space bound for the international space station. >>> at talladega super speedway, a 25 car pileup. believe it or not, there were no injuries. >>> drew brees broke the record. touchdown passes in 48 consecutive games. >> there it is! >> all that -- >> yankees are going to oakland up two games to none. >> and all that matters. >> he spent 90 minutes trying to undo two years of campaigning on that stage. he did it very well. >> are you saying governor romney lied? >> on "cbs this morning." >
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it is the vice presidential debate set for this thursday in kentucky between joe biden and paul ryan, and suddenly after the lopsided performance by the president last week, womillie, e stakes are higher. >> peter alexander, thank you. peter touched on it. we don't always give the most attention to the vice presidential debate, we did four years ago because of sarah palin, but it has new meaning because of the jobs numbers that came out friday, it is an important six or seven days. >> a lot for the gentlemen to talk about, thursday night, a battle in danville, kentucky between paul ryan and vice president joe biden, so they'll be hoping to make the most of that opportunity. >>> we want to check the day's other top stories. natalie morales is at the news desk. good morning to you. >> good morning, savannah and willie, good morning, everyone. an unprecedented term for hugo chavez as the socialist leader, reelected president of venezu a venezuela. carrie sanders is there. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. the official reports show that the president won that unprecedented third te
it is the vice presidential debate set for this thursday in kentucky between joe biden and paul ryan, and suddenly after the lopsided performance by the president last week, womillie, e stakes are higher. >> peter alexander, thank you. peter touched on it. we don't always give the most attention to the vice presidential debate, we did four years ago because of sarah palin, but it has new meaning because of the jobs numbers that came out friday, it is an important six or seven days....
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also, the biden ryan debate in kentucky. will the vice president avoid any quote bumps in the road as the president described his own performance over the weekend and how will paul ryan perform on the biggest stage of his career. plus, you say tomato. i say electoral. find out how some trade decisions could affect the election in some key states. good morning, it's monday, october 8th, 2012. i'm chuck todd. i know some of you are celebrating as if this is some federal holiday. there is no day off when it's 29 days until the november election. if mitt romney is going to be president of the united states, then next week, iowa and ohio will be coin flip races. we're seeing a more confidence mitt romney on the trail. >> we had a little debate earlier this week and i enjoyed myself. you had the chance to hear his answers or non answers. now, of course, days later, we're hearing his excuses. >> but while the romney campaign body language has changed, both are anxiously awaiting the first good post debate polls. those will give us
also, the biden ryan debate in kentucky. will the vice president avoid any quote bumps in the road as the president described his own performance over the weekend and how will paul ryan perform on the biggest stage of his career. plus, you say tomato. i say electoral. find out how some trade decisions could affect the election in some key states. good morning, it's monday, october 8th, 2012. i'm chuck todd. i know some of you are celebrating as if this is some federal holiday. there is no day...
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this is the joe biden we want. joe biden has to be careful about going too hard at paul ryan because of just that, because of the gaffes and because he can look over bearing, and paul, a lot is riding on paul ryan, and we want to keep that momentum going from that first debate, and he has to be careful not to get into the weeds of some of these policies. >> i know. he tends to be quite wonkish at times and people listen and say what? >> well, that's right. it is important that ryan stick with the big picture and go after biden on the rising debt and our sky rocketed unemployment and talk about the failed last four years as opposed to being trying to get trapped in some of the bieden spiderwebs that he will try to weave. >> it appears that joe biden is really taking this seriously because the democrats don't want to repeat of the first debate, right? joe biden apparently has taken six days off and practicing, practicing, practicing, especially with zingers. >> yes, absolutely, and he should be taking it seriously. i
this is the joe biden we want. joe biden has to be careful about going too hard at paul ryan because of just that, because of the gaffes and because he can look over bearing, and paul, a lot is riding on paul ryan, and we want to keep that momentum going from that first debate, and he has to be careful not to get into the weeds of some of these policies. >> i know. he tends to be quite wonkish at times and people listen and say what? >> well, that's right. it is important that ryan...
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now this thursday on the 11th you've got paul ryan and vice president joe biden. this is going to be very important for obama's effort to stave off romney. then on the 16th you got the second obama-romney debate. on the 22nd final obama-romney debate. then the last friday before the election one more jobs number. my own inclination the job numbers aren't quite as "game change"ing for debates as for the reason voters know how they feel about the economy. they don't need a government report. it does get a lot of attention and we got a race that's plainly at this point even though obama still has a slight advantage in the battleground states this race can go either way. >> interesting. then we got the governor, of course, speaking at vmi about foreign policy, an area for which a little while he appeared to want to take the campaign, at least before the debate. how ground moving is this? >> reporter: i don't think it's very ground moving. it's not what people will vote on. for romney it's an effort to press a leadership advantage which may be one of the things that mo
now this thursday on the 11th you've got paul ryan and vice president joe biden. this is going to be very important for obama's effort to stave off romney. then on the 16th you got the second obama-romney debate. on the 22nd final obama-romney debate. then the last friday before the election one more jobs number. my own inclination the job numbers aren't quite as "game change"ing for debates as for the reason voters know how they feel about the economy. they don't need a government...
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democrats are provided on joe biden. - vice president joe biden will know exactly what is going on he is in touch with the american people. i am just hopeful. that ryan will tell the truth. >> the former debate coach give his opinion on how it will go. >> i am sure that joe biden got a phone call from the white house that said. we did not go after governor romney as much as zero yo..... think both men will be both their repaired. >> he says that he will be ready. >> i am looking afford. forward -->> both will be in place for domestic issues is the only vice presidential debate before the election. christina, kron 4. >> the next presidential debate is in new york. joe biden and gop hopeful will take the stage for their first and only debate on thursday. go to our new channel. comcast 193 for the latest news, weather and traffic updates. we will take a quick break with much more. we will leave you with a look at the toll plaza. one as expected, light ♪ >> welcome back. jugo chavez overcame a serious challenge. andrew spencer reports. >> with a democratic battle. with 8 million compatr
democrats are provided on joe biden. - vice president joe biden will know exactly what is going on he is in touch with the american people. i am just hopeful. that ryan will tell the truth. >> the former debate coach give his opinion on how it will go. >> i am sure that joe biden got a phone call from the white house that said. we did not go after governor romney as much as zero yo..... think both men will be both their repaired. >> he says that he will be ready. >> i am...
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. >> is there anything more than joe biden thinking it's up to him to get the lead back? >> relief may be days away for california drivers who are suffering through the highest gasoline prices in the nation. >> they are keeping me at home. >> 91 cases of fungal meningitis. >> fists started flying. wild brawl between two separate wedding parties. one man dead and four people under arrest. >> liftoff. new era in space flight. >> at talladega super speedway, a 25 car pileup. no injuries. >> drew brees broke johnny unitas' record. >> all that -- >> the washington nationals winning 3-2 and game one goes to the yankees. >> and all that matters. >> spending 90 minutes trying undo campaigning on that but he did it very well. >> your saying governor romney lied? >> if the u.s. were burning what famous person would you save and why? >> i would save oprah she's worth about 100 billion. who would you save? >> my family. >> welcome to cbs "this morning." we have new evidence governor romney is gaining ground. the race is now a dead heat. president obama led that same poll by five poin
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. >> i am sure that vice president biden got a phone call from the white house and said, we didn't go after governor romney as much and so you have got to turn up the heat. >>> and breaking a record, new orleans saints quarterback drew brees passes a major milestone and enters the record books. monday, october 8th and "starting point" begins right now. >>> good morning. welcome, everybody. happy columbus day. kind of feels like new year's day across the country. our starting point this morning is the bone-chilling temperatures. a cold snap is gripping roughly two-thirds of the country. dozens of cities saw record lows over the weekend. the midwest in an early deep freeze including in sioux city, iowa, where they're bottoming out at 15 degrees. alexandria steele is live in the extreme weather center. good morning. >> good morning to you, soledad. it certainly is cold around the country. all right, yesterday alone, 170 record low high temperatures, meaning the afternoons were well below average. st. louis only 51, should have been 68. places that should have been in the 60s were well be
. >> i am sure that vice president biden got a phone call from the white house and said, we didn't go after governor romney as much and so you have got to turn up the heat. >>> and breaking a record, new orleans saints quarterback drew brees passes a major milestone and enters the record books. monday, october 8th and "starting point" begins right now. >>> good morning. welcome, everybody. happy columbus day. kind of feels like new year's day across the...
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but i suspect he's going to be respectful of biden. i mean, there's a generational difference here that i think will lead ryan to not give an inch, but to not be very hostile. >> i was just going to say history shows when there's an age difference, the elder statesman wins the vice presidential debates. cheney and edwards. cheney was able to almost smack down edwards. benson and quayle, famous. joe biden, everybody talks about the gaffes on the trail, but he won most of the democratic primary debates in 2008. >> but this is a high wire act with joe biden. they are going to be pouring cola down his throat. they'll have a couple of days of bad polling. you have ryan who is very impressive but hasn't done this before. and biden who is a high wire act in an attack mode, which isn't always his natural place. it will make for a good -- >> if i can ask you this, hilary. there is an immediate reaction to these debates about, wow, how do you feel? there is so much information. and this was such a sconstant substantivive debate between romney an
but i suspect he's going to be respectful of biden. i mean, there's a generational difference here that i think will lead ryan to not give an inch, but to not be very hostile. >> i was just going to say history shows when there's an age difference, the elder statesman wins the vice presidential debates. cheney and edwards. cheney was able to almost smack down edwards. benson and quayle, famous. joe biden, everybody talks about the gaffes on the trail, but he won most of the democratic...
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the right was whipping around a photo of biden -- you know some goofy photo of biden saying don't worry lefty, your ace is warming up in the bullpen. [ laughter ] >> bill: thank you so much for ryaning us ryan. look forward to getting you back in the studio soon. 866-55-press you know our toll-free number. and we'll be right back on the "full court press." >> announcer: this is the "bill press show" ♪ prestigious rush limbaugh's worst nightmare award. i don't think you knew that. [ dennis' voice ] i bet he's got an allstate agent. they can save you up to 30% more by bundling your policies. well his dog's stupid. [ dennis' voice ] poodles are one of the world's smartest breeds. are you in good hands? ♪ >> announcer: taking your emails on any topic, at anytime. this is the "bill press show," live on your radio, and current tv. >> bill: yeah how about it. president obama got osama bin laden, bit bit is going to get big bird. steve said when mitt romney said he loved big bird didn't it remind you of oj saying he loved nicole? oh, ow. why don't mitt romney's sons' work? do all rich repub
the right was whipping around a photo of biden -- you know some goofy photo of biden saying don't worry lefty, your ace is warming up in the bullpen. [ laughter ] >> bill: thank you so much for ryaning us ryan. look forward to getting you back in the studio soon. 866-55-press you know our toll-free number. and we'll be right back on the "full court press." >> announcer: this is the "bill press show" ♪ prestigious rush limbaugh's worst nightmare award. i don't...
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joe biden is a very good debater. >> have you ever seen joe biden lose a debate? everyone talks about his gaffes on the road. he makes those some speeches. >> he never loses a debate. weap we were just saying that he beat barack obama every time he debated. >> he had the definitive line against rudy jewel yawnly. giulia giuliani. >> i've got to ask about your candidate's foreign policy address. that's happening today. >> today, virginia military institute. >> i'm looking at some of the previews of the speech. >> which he loves. >> i don't. he's going there on benghazi, talking about iran. does he really need to do this? >> yes, does. >> let me respond to that, you know. what he has done over the last couple weeks is tried, in working on the speech, is to try to step back and look at events in recent weeks and years. iran closer to a nuclear bomb than it has ever been before. syria in chaos. you know, lots of tumult throughout the middle east. the arab spring turning into some sort of dark winter. and he's taking a step back and looking -- this is the world we live
joe biden is a very good debater. >> have you ever seen joe biden lose a debate? everyone talks about his gaffes on the road. he makes those some speeches. >> he never loses a debate. weap we were just saying that he beat barack obama every time he debated. >> he had the definitive line against rudy jewel yawnly. giulia giuliani. >> i've got to ask about your candidate's foreign policy address. that's happening today. >> today, virginia military institute. >>...
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ryan losing his father early and biden losing his wife and son. and they've also spent their entire careers in washington. they actually understand the facts and figures in a way -- >> gretchen: speaking of facts p figure, the university of colorado updated election forecasting model still pointing out they believe mitt romney will win. they did this back on august 22. they had him winning a majority of the electoral college votes. you need 270. now in the latest one, he's gained five more points. do you look at this and do you agree with it? >> the university of colorado statistical poll they've done, it's been right almost every time. >> pete: since 1980. >> pretty good track record. but you can not find a democrat who will agree with you on the path that romney could get to 270 electoral votes. bob beckel on "the five," he always is like, it is not possible. he'll walk through the map with me. last week i showed the "wall street journal" interactive map. if you use the colorado model, and you plug those in, then romney does have a way to get th
ryan losing his father early and biden losing his wife and son. and they've also spent their entire careers in washington. they actually understand the facts and figures in a way -- >> gretchen: speaking of facts p figure, the university of colorado updated election forecasting model still pointing out they believe mitt romney will win. they did this back on august 22. they had him winning a majority of the electoral college votes. you need 270. now in the latest one, he's gained five...
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so we have to see whether paul ryan, who is very smart policy guy, can beat joe biden who makes shall mistake, but he's been around a long time and he those some thing. p. >> you wrote a column suting the debates ultimately are oftentimes historically irrelevant, that they don't change the outcome. is there something specifically happening this time that's different? >> what i said in that story was that historical pattern is that usually even if you have a surprisingly good first debate for one party or the other, usually they don't change the trajectory of the campaign. but every once in a while, and 2000 is the best example, a whole series of thins come together and the vice presidential debate is important in that process to accelerate the wave or stop it. and that's what we'll find out in kentucky later. >> you said the jobs number doesn't matter. is that in part this whole jack welch thing over the weekend around whether the numbers are real, does that matter in all of this? >> i think the jack welch stuff was crazy talk. and earlier in the year when you guys were down in washin
so we have to see whether paul ryan, who is very smart policy guy, can beat joe biden who makes shall mistake, but he's been around a long time and he those some thing. p. >> you wrote a column suting the debates ultimately are oftentimes historically irrelevant, that they don't change the outcome. is there something specifically happening this time that's different? >> what i said in that story was that historical pattern is that usually even if you have a surprisingly good first...
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maybe vice president biden brings it up for ryan. >> aren't the expectations higher for biden? >> it indicated more people thought ryan would win the debate over biden. ryan is known as a numbers guy, the house budget chairman. >> mitt romney will deliver a big foreign policy speech this morning. you have excerpts for us i understand. >> the campaign put them out a few hours ago. virginia military institute, a big foreign policy speech what they're togethuting. one of the things that mitt romney will say -- similar language to what we've heard from mitt romney on the campaign trail criticizing the president he says not being muscular enough for defending the ney and its allies. >> paul steinhauser, live in washington, d.c., thank you. >>> coming up at half past the hour live to congresswoman diane black, a tennessee republican and surrogate for mitt romney's campaign who works with paul ryan on the budget committee. a reminder, the only vice presidential debate of the 2012 campaign, takes place this thursday. you can watch it live at 7:00 eastern on cnn. and always on cnn.com.
maybe vice president biden brings it up for ryan. >> aren't the expectations higher for biden? >> it indicated more people thought ryan would win the debate over biden. ryan is known as a numbers guy, the house budget chairman. >> mitt romney will deliver a big foreign policy speech this morning. you have excerpts for us i understand. >> the campaign put them out a few hours ago. virginia military institute, a big foreign policy speech what they're togethuting. one of...
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ryan feeling good, and biden maybe looking afraid here. robert gibbs, how do you see this shaping up? are we going to see biden overcompensating, being more aggressive than he might have otherwise? >> i don't think that vice president biden will overcompensate. the question is which paul ryan do we get? do we get this same sort of, you know, chameleon we saw in mitt romney who literally walks away from virtually everything that his campaigned on for two years in the space of less than two hours. i know that vice president biden is anxious and ready to do this and the president is anxious to get back to it as well. >> how do you size it up? >> i think ryan is one of the brightest people in congress. i think he knows an immense amount of facts. but i suspect he's going to be respectful of biden. i mean, there's a generational difference here that i think will lead ryan to not give an inch, but to not be very hostile. >> i was just going to say history shows when there's an age difference, the elder statesman wins the vice presidential debate
ryan feeling good, and biden maybe looking afraid here. robert gibbs, how do you see this shaping up? are we going to see biden overcompensating, being more aggressive than he might have otherwise? >> i don't think that vice president biden will overcompensate. the question is which paul ryan do we get? do we get this same sort of, you know, chameleon we saw in mitt romney who literally walks away from virtually everything that his campaigned on for two years in the space of less than two...
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and we want to look forward to the next debate, which is biden and ryan. we also want to go inside the numbers with chuck todd for a look at how the campaign is feeling good. the romney campaign, after the first debate, looking at some of the enthusiasm. later, my conversation as i mentioned with arnold schwarzenegger. much more to come with our special panel right after this. >>> "meet the press" is brought to you by the boeing company. we know why we're here. ♪ to connect our forces to what they need, when they need it. ♪ to help troops see danger, before it sees them. ♪ to answer the call of the brave and bring them safely home. [ female announcer ] around the globe, the people of boeing are working together, to support and protect all who serve. that's why we're here. ♪ [ male announcer ] how do you turn an entrepreneur's dream... ♪ into a scooter that talks to the cloud? ♪ or make 70,000 trades a second... ♪ reach one customer at a time? ♪ how do you help doctors turn billions of bytes of shared information... ♪ into a fifth annivers
and we want to look forward to the next debate, which is biden and ryan. we also want to go inside the numbers with chuck todd for a look at how the campaign is feeling good. the romney campaign, after the first debate, looking at some of the enthusiasm. later, my conversation as i mentioned with arnold schwarzenegger. much more to come with our special panel right after this. >>> "meet the press" is brought to you by the boeing company. we know why we're here. ♪ to connect...
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vice president biden will do very, very well. he knows what has been going on. he is in touch with the american public, and i'm just hopeful mr. ryan will tell the truth. romney's former debate coach gave his opinion on how the next debate will go. i am sure vp biden got a call from the white house that said we didnt go after gov. romney as much so you have got to turn up the heat. i think both men will be very prepared. biden says he's ready. so all debates are tough but i'm looking forward to it. i really am. foreign and domestic policy issues both will be in play thursday night. it's the only vice presidential debate before the november 6th election. i'm cristina mutchler reporting >> chicago peace activist protested the 11th anniversary of the war in afghanistan today . the protesters marched from tribune tower to obama campaign headquarters. they called for an end to the war in afghanistan... and more money for jobs in the education and health care. nine organizations a co-sponsor today's anti-war protest >> coming up... something we haven't seen from nasa
vice president biden will do very, very well. he knows what has been going on. he is in touch with the american public, and i'm just hopeful mr. ryan will tell the truth. romney's former debate coach gave his opinion on how the next debate will go. i am sure vp biden got a call from the white house that said we didnt go after gov. romney as much so you have got to turn up the heat. i think both men will be very prepared. biden says he's ready. so all debates are tough but i'm looking forward to...
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. >>> joe biden versus paul ryan is next. the first and only vice presidential debate just days away. we preview the match-up and look at standout moments from previous vice presidential debates. >> who can forget that wink? sarah palin winking with the nominee, joe biden. not just once, but some half a dozen times. and there is lloyd benson's dig in 1988. >> i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you are no jack kennedy. >> memorable moments, but hardly game changers. while presidential debates can affect the outcome of an election vice presidential debates like this upcoming match-up between biden and his gop challenger, paul ryan, are a different animal. >> can you see they have hit the standard of readiness they will be ready to be able to step into the oval office and take the reigns of the presidency. but beyond that in terms of the actual debate itself, unless there's a star-killing or star-catching moment it rarely changes the course of the debate. >> brazil says the first rule here is to do
. >>> joe biden versus paul ryan is next. the first and only vice presidential debate just days away. we preview the match-up and look at standout moments from previous vice presidential debates. >> who can forget that wink? sarah palin winking with the nominee, joe biden. not just once, but some half a dozen times. and there is lloyd benson's dig in 1988. >> i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you are no jack kennedy. >> memorable...
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joe biden has been around forever, it seems. he has a reputation for sometimes saying the wrong thing. you saw in the package where he made the statement, the middle class has been buried. so i don't know which way this is going to go. but ryan, again, benefits from probably low expectations, because he's considered anonymous. >> we can count on biden to bring the populous view, which is what he's done throughout his political life, i would say. >> absolutely. he hasn't ruled out running for president at age 72. he'll love being on the national stage. >> tim kaine, george allen debating now. might allen make a surge? >> i think kaine is a strong candidate in virginia. he was a popular governor. he's a nice guy. he didn't have overriding negatives. he speaks spanish fluently during his work in honduras. there aren't any really obama/allen voters. what i mean by that, there aren't split ticket people for allen. while tim kaine will probably get votes that will go to mitt romney. so i think he benefits and i think he's stronger wit
joe biden has been around forever, it seems. he has a reputation for sometimes saying the wrong thing. you saw in the package where he made the statement, the middle class has been buried. so i don't know which way this is going to go. but ryan, again, benefits from probably low expectations, because he's considered anonymous. >> we can count on biden to bring the populous view, which is what he's done throughout his political life, i would say. >> absolutely. he hasn't ruled out...
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what about the white house momentum could be lost because of joe biden obama biden want to raise taxes by $1 billion. guess what? yes we do we want to let the $1 trillion tax cut expire so the middle-class does not have to bear the burden. charles: mitt romney does not waste any time. >> is today the president said they do want to raise taxes. i don't want to raise them on any americans. i want to create good jobs. charles: mondex guess says the higher tax rates will lead to higher unemployment rates. with class warfare it does not matter the residual damage they're going with this. hoping the public cannot connect the dots? >> it will be interesting hallwood joe biden follows up. $1 trillion tax hike where we want to go. four years ago they told us no tax increases on 81 making less than $250,000. the economy is languishing worse where looking for more tax hikes and four years ago it was zero tax hikes? we have all been hit now we know how the middle-class and people will be affected. obamacare has at least seven pin tax hikes and 30 more on top of that. charles: we discover a couple
what about the white house momentum could be lost because of joe biden obama biden want to raise taxes by $1 billion. guess what? yes we do we want to let the $1 trillion tax cut expire so the middle-class does not have to bear the burden. charles: mitt romney does not waste any time. >> is today the president said they do want to raise taxes. i don't want to raise them on any americans. i want to create good jobs. charles: mondex guess says the higher tax rates will lead to higher...
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biden and ryan couldn't be further apart on the issues, but they both love to debate. i spoke with candy crowley our political correspondent about the race and what to expect. >> the vice presidential debate this week, a couple of your guest this is morning summed up the candidates this way. >> paul is a smart guy. he has committed his life to understanding the problems of our economy, presenting a plan for the american people. so i think that paul is going to do -- is going to do a great job. >> vice president biden will do very, very well. he knows what's been going on. he's in touch with with the american public. and i'm just hopeful that mr. ryan will tell the truth. >> it's a one-shot deal. they've got to get it right on this debate. likely what are they focusing on in their rehearsals? >> well, i mean, joe biden told us he's focusing on paul ryan's economic plan as he introduced to the house last or the year before, because they think that is fertile territory to find a lot of ways to try to paint mitt romney and paul ryan as, you know, against the middle class a
biden and ryan couldn't be further apart on the issues, but they both love to debate. i spoke with candy crowley our political correspondent about the race and what to expect. >> the vice presidential debate this week, a couple of your guest this is morning summed up the candidates this way. >> paul is a smart guy. he has committed his life to understanding the problems of our economy, presenting a plan for the american people. so i think that paul is going to do -- is going to do a...